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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:55:51 -0500
From: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>, Andy Lutomirski <>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor

On 7/29/20 3:36 AM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Madhavan T. Venkataraman
>> Sent: 28 July 2020 19:52
> ...
>> trampfd faults are instruction faults that go through a different code path than
>> the one that calls handle_mm_fault(). Perhaps, it is the handle_mm_fault() that
>> is time consuming. Could you clarify?
> Given that the expectation is a few instructions in userspace
> (eg to pick up the original arguments for a nested call)
> the (probable) thousands of clocks taken by entering the
> kernel (especially with page table separation) is a massive
> delta.
> If entering the kernel were cheap no one would have added
> the DSO functions for getting the time of day.

I hear you. BTW, I did not say that the overhead was trivial.
I only said that in most cases, applications may not mind that
extra overhead.

However, since multiple people have raised that as an issue,
I will address it. I mentioned before that the kernel can actually
supply the code page that sets the context and jumps to
a PC and map it so the performance issue can be addressed.
I was planning to do that as a future enhancement.

If there is a consensus that I must address it immediately, I
could do that.

I will continue this discussion in my reply to Andy's email. Let
us pick it up from there.


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