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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 11:22:16 +0800
From: Jason Yan <yanaijie@...wei.com>
To: Scott Wood <oss@...error.net>, Daniel Axtens <dja@...ens.net>,
<mpe@...erman.id.au>, <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
<diana.craciun@....com>, <christophe.leroy@....fr>,
<benh@...nel.crashing.org>, <paulus@...ba.org>, <npiggin@...il.com>,
<keescook@...omium.org>, <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>
CC: <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <zhaohongjiang@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64
在 2020/3/5 5:21, Scott Wood 写道:
> On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 18:16 +1100, Daniel Axtens wrote:
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>>> This is a try to implement KASLR for Freescale BookE64 which is based on
>>> my earlier implementation for Freescale BookE32:
>>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/list/?series=131718
>>>
>>> The implementation for Freescale BookE64 is similar as BookE32. One
>>> difference is that Freescale BookE64 set up a TLB mapping of 1G during
>>> booting. Another difference is that ppc64 needs the kernel to be
>>> 64K-aligned. So we can randomize the kernel in this 1G mapping and make
>>> it 64K-aligned. This can save some code to creat another TLB map at
>>> early boot. The disadvantage is that we only have about 1G/64K = 16384
>>> slots to put the kernel in.
>>>
>>> KERNELBASE
>>>
>>> 64K |--> kernel <--|
>>> | | |
>>> +--+--+--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ +--+--+
>>> | | | |....| | | | | | | | | |....| | |
>>> +--+--+--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ +--+--+
>>> | | 1G
>>> |-----> offset <-----|
>>>
>>> kernstart_virt_addr
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if the slot numbers is enough or the design has any
>>> defects. If you have some better ideas, I would be happy to hear that.
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
>>>
>>
>> Are you making any attempt to hide kernel address leaks in this series?
>> I've just been looking at the stackdump code just now, and it directly
>> prints link registers and stack pointers, which is probably enough to
>> determine the kernel base address:
>>
>> SPs: LRs: %pS pointer
>> [ 0.424506] [c0000000de403970] [c000000001fc0458] dump_stack+0xfc/0x154
>> (unreliable)
>> [ 0.424593] [c0000000de4039c0] [c000000000267eec] panic+0x258/0x5ac
>> [ 0.424659] [c0000000de403a60] [c0000000024d7a00]
>> mount_block_root+0x634/0x7c0
>> [ 0.424734] [c0000000de403be0] [c0000000024d8100]
>> prepare_namespace+0x1ec/0x23c
>> [ 0.424811] [c0000000de403c60] [c0000000024d7010]
>> kernel_init_freeable+0x804/0x880
>>
>> git grep \\\"REG\\\" arch/powerpc shows a few other uses like this, all
>> in process.c or in xmon.
>>
>> Maybe replacing the REG format string in KASLR mode would be sufficient?
>
> Whatever we decide to do here, it's not book3e-specific so it should be
> considered separately from these patches.
>
OK, I will continue to work with this series.
> -Scott
>
>
>
> .
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