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Message-ID: <20200228033648.GJ24216@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:36:48 +0800 From: Baoquan He <bhe@...hat.com> To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@...ux.intel.com>, dyoung@...hat.com, tglx@...utronix.de, mingo@...hat.com, bp@...en8.de, hpa@...or.com, arjan@...ux.intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com, x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, kexec@...ts.infradead.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/11] kallsyms: hide layout and expose seed On 02/27/20 at 08:02am, Kees Cook wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:42:53AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote: > > On 02/06/20 at 09:51am, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 04:32 -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > > > > > > In the past, making kallsyms entirely unreadable seemed to break > > > > weird > > > > stuff in userspace. How about having an alternative view that just > > > > contains a alphanumeric sort of the symbol names (and they will > > > > continue > > > > to have zeroed addresses for unprivileged users)? > > > > > > > > Or perhaps we wait to hear about this causing a problem, and deal > > > > with > > > > it then? :) > > > > > > > > > > Yeah - I don't know what people want here. Clearly, we can't leave > > > kallsyms the way it is. Removing it entirely is a pretty fast way to > > > figure out how people use it though :). > > > > Kexec-tools and makedumpfile are the users of /proc/kallsyms currently. > > We use kallsyms to get page_offset_base and _stext. > > AIUI, those run as root so they'd be able to consume the uncensored > output. Yes, they have to be run under root.
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