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Message-ID: <f6096b80bdab59d2d21ece4ff31fcfd36bf6b809.camel@intel.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 20:19:35 +0000 From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com> To: "luto@...nel.org" <luto@...nel.org>, "tycho@...ho.ws" <tycho@...ho.ws> CC: "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "daniel@...earbox.net" <daniel@...earbox.net>, "ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>, "ast@...nel.org" <ast@...nel.org>, "rostedt@...dmis.org" <rostedt@...dmis.org>, "jeyu@...nel.org" <jeyu@...nel.org>, "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>, "jannh@...gle.com" <jannh@...gle.com>, "nadav.amit@...il.com" <nadav.amit@...il.com>, "Dock, Deneen T" <deneen.t.dock@...el.com>, "peterz@...radead.org" <peterz@...radead.org>, "kristen@...ux.intel.com" <kristen@...ux.intel.com>, "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, "will.deacon@....com" <will.deacon@....com>, "mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>, "Keshavamurthy, Anil S" <anil.s.keshavamurthy@...el.com>, "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, "mhiramat@...nel.org" <mhiramat@...nel.org>, "naveen.n.rao@...ux.vnet.ibm.com" <naveen.n.rao@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>, "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@...el.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vmalloc: New flag for flush before releasing pages On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 11:19 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:01 AM Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 10:53:50AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > If we are going to unmap the linear alias, why not do it at vmalloc() > > > > time rather than vfree() time? > > > > > > That’s not totally nuts. Do we ever have code that expects __va() to > > > work on module data? Perhaps crypto code trying to encrypt static > > > data because our APIs don’t understand virtual addresses. I guess if > > > highmem is ever used for modules, then we should be fine. > > > > > > RO instead of not present might be safer. But I do like the idea of > > > renaming Rick's flag to something like VM_XPFO or VM_NO_DIRECT_MAP and > > > making it do all of this. > > > > Yeah, doing it for everything automatically seemed like it was/is > > going to be a lot of work to debug all the corner cases where things > > expect memory to be mapped but don't explicitly say it. And in > > particular, the XPFO series only does it for user memory, whereas an > > additional flag like this would work for extra paranoid allocations > > of kernel memory too. > > > > I just read the code, and I looks like vmalloc() is already using > highmem (__GFP_HIGH) if available, so, on big x86_32 systems, for > example, we already don't have modules in the direct map. > > So I say we go for it. This should be quite simple to implement -- > the pageattr code already has almost all the needed logic on x86. The > only arch support we should need is a pair of functions to remove a > vmalloc address range from the address map (if it was present in the > first place) and a function to put it back. On x86, this should only > be a few lines of code. > > What do you all think? This should solve most of the problems we have. > > If we really wanted to optimize this, we'd make it so that > module_alloc() allocates memory the normal way, then, later on, we > call some function that, all at once, removes the memory from the > direct map and applies the right permissions to the vmalloc alias (or > just makes the vmalloc alias not-present so we can add permissions > later without flushing), and flushes the TLB. And we arrange for > vunmap to zap the vmalloc range, then put the memory back into the > direct map, then free the pages back to the page allocator, with the > flush in the appropriate place. > > I don't see why the page allocator needs to know about any of this. > It's already okay with the permissions being changed out from under it > on x86, and it seems fine. Rick, do you want to give some variant of > this a try? Hi, Sorry, I've been having email troubles today. I found some cases where vmap with PAGE_KERNEL_RO happens, which would not set NP/RO in the directmap, so it would be sort of inconsistent whether the directmap of vmalloc range allocations were readable or not. I couldn't see any places where it would cause problems today though. I was ready to assume that all TLBs don't cache NP, because I don't know how usages where a page fault is used to load something could work without lots of flushes. If that's the case, then all archs with directmap permissions could share a single vmalloc special permission flush implementation that works like Andy described originally. It could be controlled with an ARCH_HAS_DIRECT_MAP_PERMS. We would just need something like set_pages_np and set_pages_rw on any archs with directmap permissions. So seems simpler to me (and what I have been doing) unless I'm missing the problem. If you all think so I can indeed take a shot at it, I just don't see what the problem was with the original solution, that seems less likely to break anything. Thanks, Rick
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