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Message-ID: <c5344284-f205-8465-0b04-f6da96e21609@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:39:11 +0400 From: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...il.com> To: lazytyped <lazytyped@...il.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> Cc: keescook@...omium.org, paul@...l-moore.com, sds@...ho.nsa.gov, mhocko@...nel.org, corbet@....net, labbott@...hat.com, david@...morbit.com, rppt@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...wei.com>, Carlos Chinea Perez <carlos.chinea.perez@...wei.com>, Remi Denis Courmont <remi.denis.courmont@...wei.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] Pmalloc Rare Write: modify selected pools On 24/04/18 16:32, lazytyped wrote: > > > On 4/24/18 1:50 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> struct modifiable_data { >> struct immutable_data *d; >> ... >> }; >> >> Then allocate a new pool, change d and destroy the old pool. > > With the above, you have just shifted the target of the arbitrary write > from the immutable data itself to the pointer to the immutable data, so > got no security benefit. > > The goal of the patch is to reduce the window when stuff is writeable, > so that an arbitrary write is likely to hit the time when data is read-only. Indeed, that was my - poorly explained, I admit it - idea. For example, that's the reason why I am remapping one page at a time in a loop, instead of doing the whole array, to limit exposure and increase randomness. WRT the implementation, I'm sure there are bugs that need squashing. But if I have overlooked some aspect in the overall design, I need guidance, because i still do not see what I am missing :-( -- igor
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