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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:13:48 -0700
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v10 0/6] Introduce the STACKLEAK feature and a test
 for it

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com> wrote:
> This is the 10th version of the patch series introducing STACKLEAK to the
> mainline kernel. The previous version raised a fervent discussion[0].
> The assembly code introduced by v9 irritated the reviewers.

Thanks for persisting!

> I've found the way to bypass the obstacles[1] of the C implementation.
> So I dare come once again. Let me ask you to look at this code without
> preconception.

The assembly changes are now very minimal; thanks for reworking this.
I hope this addresses both Dave Hansen and Linus's (similar)
objections.

>  1. reduces the information that can be revealed through kernel stack leak bugs.
>     The idea of erasing the thread stack at the end of syscalls is similar to
>     CONFIG_PAGE_POISONING and memzero_explicit() in kernel crypto, which all
>     comply with FDP_RIP.2 (Full Residual Information Protection) of the
>     Common Criteria standard.

Agreed: I continue to believe this is meaningful even if just for
reducing the lifetime of sensitive data on the stack.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
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