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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:47:11 -0800
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 4/7] x86/entry: Erase kernel stack in syscall_trace_enter()

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> The warning would remain for the case where you don't enable this
> hardening feature, so it wouldn't go away.

Side note: if in ten years we'd have a minimum gcc version that we
could  just unconditionally say "auto (scalars) initialize to zero",
then we'd just make that be the *semantics*, and the warning would
obviously simply not ever be an issue.

But that's no different from "static variables initialize to zero" and
nobody sane expects a warning from that. It's just what it is.

But that's at least ten years away. We tend to support disgustingly
old compiler versions.

               Linus

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