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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:29:37 -0800
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 4/7] x86/entry: Erase kernel stack in syscall_trace_enter()

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote:
>
> Right, there are two separate problems: the missing warnings
> and the actual uninitialized use. Allocating the stack slots would
> address both but only at an enormous cost. Assigning a value
> would still have a cost, as it would prevent certain other optimizations,
> and it wouldn't help find the missing initializations,
> but the cost would obviously be much lower.

What possible optimization would it prevent?

I cannot think of a single interesting optimization that would be
invalidated by a trivial initialization of 0 to a scalar.

Yes, it can obviously generate some extra code for the "pass pointer
to uninitialized scalar around to be initialized", where it can now
make that stack slot be initialized to zero - so it can generate extra
code. But disabling an optimization?

What did you have in mind?

                   Linus

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