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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:58:26 +0000
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 4/7] x86/entry: Erase kernel stack in syscall_trace_enter()

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 4:56 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Linus Torvalds
>> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> I was actually hoping that the clang people would get rid of those,
> but they only seemed to care about VLA's in structures, not about them
> in general ;(
>
> I detest VLA's, we really shouldn't use them. I'm sorry we have any.

Then we need to fix our abysmal synchronous crypto API, which, AFAICT,
is the primary user of on-stack VLAs in the kernel.

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