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Message-ID: <414027d3-dd73-cf11-dc2a-e8c124591646@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:40:40 -0800 From: Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...wei.com> Cc: Boris Lukashev <blukashev@...pervictus.com>, Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] Protectable Memory On 02/12/2018 03:27 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...wei.com> wrote: >> On 04/02/18 00:29, Boris Lukashev wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...wei.com> wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>>> What you are suggesting, if I have understood it correctly, is that, >>>> when the pool is protected, the addresses already given out, will become >>>> traps that get resolved through a lookup table that is built based on >>>> the content of each allocation. >>>> >>>> That seems to generate a lot of overhead, not to mention the fact that >>>> it might not play very well with the MMU. >>> >>> That is effectively what i'm suggesting - as a form of protection for >>> consumers against direct reads of data which may have been corrupted >>> by some irrelevant means. In the context of pmalloc, it would probably >>> be a separate type of ro+verified pool >> ok, that seems more like an extension though. >> >> ATM I am having problems gaining traction to get even the basic merged :-) >> >> I would consider this as a possibility for future work, unless it is >> said that it's necessary for pmalloc to be accepted ... > > I would agree: let's get basic functionality in first. Both > verification and the physmap part can be done separately, IMO. Skipping over physmap leaves a pretty big area of exposure that could be difficult to solve later. I appreciate this might block basic functionality but I don't think we should just gloss over it without at least some idea of what we would do. Thanks, Laura
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