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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 08:57:58 -0700
From: Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@...gle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
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Subject: Re: x86: PIE support and option to extend KASLR randomization
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 07:20:38AM -0700, Thomas Garnier wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
>
>> > Have you considered a kernel with -mcmodel=small (or medium) instead of -fpie
>> > -mcmodel=large? We can pick a random 2GB window in the (non-kernel) canonical
>> > x86-64 address space to randomize the location of kernel text. The location of
>> > modules can be further randomized within that 2GB window.
>>
>> -model=small/medium assume you are on the low 32-bit. It generates
>> instructions where the virtual addresses have the high 32-bit to be
>> zero.
>
> That's a compiler fail, right? Because the SDM states that for "CALL
> rel32" the 32bit displacement is sign extended on x86_64.
>
That's different than what I expected at first too.
Now, I think I have an alternative of using mcmodel=large. I could use
-fPIC and ensure modules are never far away from the main kernel
(moving the module section start close to the random kernel end). I
looked at it and that seems possible but will require more work. I
plan to start with the mcmodel=large support and add this mode in a
way that could benefit classic KASLR (without -fPIC) because it
randomize where modules start based on the kernel.
--
Thomas
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