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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708161106370.11379@nuc-kabylake>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: x86: PIE support and option to extend KASLR randomization

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> And we'd do this for _EVERY_ function call in the kernel. That kind of crap is
> totally unacceptable.

Ahh finally a limit is in sight as to how much security hardening etc can
reduce kernel performance.

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