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Message-ID: <CAK8P3a076DEDpzRgTRBNLWan-KZyD0LkauWpuO8RFCf-9i1mhA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:27:06 +0200 From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>, "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@...linux.org.uk>, Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/20] gcc-plugins: Add the randstruct plugin On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org> wrote: > On 30 June 2017 at 07:35, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote: >>> The first obviously won't fly. The second just bypasses the problem >>> forcing it to be exposed by other people later. The third is likely >>> easiest to do now, but reduces the effectiveness of randomization for >>> architectures that don't have sensitive immediate values. The fourth >>> sounds not generally useful. The fifth may be unacceptable to arm >>> maintainers due to performance impacts. >> >> I was thinking of the fifth solution, but don't know exactly how to >> do it. If performance is a concern, I guess we could have separate >> implementations for randstruct and traditional builds. >> > > Does this not apply to *all* entries in asm-offsets? If so, I don't > see how it is tractable to fix this in the code, unless we add some > instrumentation to asm-offsets to whitelist some huge structs and > error out on new ones. Or perhaps there's really only a handful? I think the other structs are all small enough: * thread_info is at most 720 bytes (including crunch+vfp3, which you wouldn't find in one combined kernel) and not randomized at the moment * pt_regs is 72 bytes and I don't see how that would be randomized * machine_desc would be a candidate for randomizing, but is only 108 bytes * proc_info_list is 52 bytes and not currently randomized * vm_area_struct is randomized but only 96 bytes. * task_struct is clearly large enough, but we only use TSK_ACTIVE_MM and TSK_STACK_CANARY, both can be fixed with your trick. > In any case, these particular examples are fairly straightforward, > since there is no need to preserve the register's value. > > ldr r7, [r7, #TSK_STACK_CANARY] > > could be replaced with > > .if TSK_STACK_CANARAY >= PAGE_SIZE > add r7, r7, #TSK_STACK_CANARY & PAGE_MASK > .endif > ldr r7, [r7, #TSK_STACK_CANARY & ~PAGE_MASK] Nice! Arnd
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