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Message-ID: <CAHmME9oOUo-A-0NA5qPvcbTRf+xYKxmOtXb9fXVCmLwLcWPWug@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:49:07 +0200
From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>, noloader@...il.com, 
	tglx@...akpoint.cc, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, 
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>, 
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, 
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>, Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: silence compiler warnings and fix race

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu> wrote:
>> But I think there's another camp that would mutiny in the face of this
>> kind of hubris.
>
> Blocking the boot for hours and hours until we have enough entropy to
> initialize the CRNG is ***not*** an acceptable way of making the
> warning messages go away.  Do that and the users **will** mutiny.
>
> It's this sort of attitude which is why Linus has in the past said
> that security people are sometimes insane....

Uh, talk about a totally unnecessary punch... In case my last email
wasn't clear, I fully recognize that `default y` is a tad too extreme,
which is why from one of the earliest revisions in this series, I
moved directly to the compromise solution (`depends DEBUG_KERNEL`)
without even waiting for people to complain first.

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