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Message-ID: <1494343857.20270.23.camel@redhat.com>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 11:30:57 -0400
From: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>, "Fogh, Anders"
	 <anders.fogh@...ta-adan.de>, Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@...k.tugraz.at>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, kernel list
 <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com"
 <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, "clementine.maurice@...k.tugraz.at"
 <clementine.maurice@...k.tugraz.at>, "moritz.lipp@...k.tugraz.at"
 <moritz.lipp@...k.tugraz.at>, Michael Schwarz
 <michael.schwarz@...k.tugraz.at>,  Richard Fellner
 <richard.fellner@...dent.tugraz.at>, "Kirill A. Shutemov"
 <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,  Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not
 mapkernel in user mode

On Tue, 2017-05-09 at 16:57 +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:44 schrieb Fogh, Anders:
> > > > i.e. how does it perform on recent AMD systems?
> > 
> > Sorry for the latency. Recent AMD is reported by Enrique Nissem to
> > not
> > be vulnerable to the prefetch attack. TSX attack doesn't apply to
> > AMD.
> > Hund, Willems & Holz wrote in 2013 that AMD was vulnerable to that
> > attack. The BTB is almost surely working in a different manner of
> > fashion if at all. So AMD may or may not be vulnerable to the DPF
> > attack, but none of the modern attacks should work - at least out
> > of the
> > box.
> 
> But the promoted patch will also run on AMD systems, that's why I
> asked
> for the overhead.

Well, if it is a compile time switch, and the
overhead is unacceptable on everything but the
very latest Intel chips, chances are the code
will not be enabled in any distribution kernel.

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