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Message-ID: <20170422195034.GA17556@mail.hallyn.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:50:34 -0500 From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com> To: Matt Brown <matt@...tt.com> Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>, jmorris@...ei.org, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, jslaby@...e.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, jannh@...gle.com, keescook@...omium.org, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN Quoting Matt Brown (matt@...tt.com): > On 04/21/2017 01:24 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:09:59AM -0400, Matt Brown wrote: > >>On 04/20/2017 01:41 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >>>Quoting matt@...tt.com (matt@...tt.com): > >>>>On 2017-04-20 11:19, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >>>>>Quoting Matt Brown (matt@...tt.com): > >>>>>>On 04/19/2017 07:53 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >>>>>>>Quoting Matt Brown (matt@...tt.com): > >>>>>>>>On 04/19/2017 12:58 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:45:26PM -0400, Matt Brown wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>This patch reproduces GRKERNSEC_HARDEN_TTY functionality from the grsecurity > >>>>>>>>>>project in-kernel. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>This will create the Kconfig SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT and the corresponding > >>>>>>>>>>sysctl kernel.tiocsti_restrict that, when activated, restrict all TIOCSTI > >>>>>>>>>>ioctl calls from non CAP_SYS_ADMIN users. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Possible effects on userland: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>There could be a few user programs that would be effected by this > >>>>>>>>>>change. > >>>>>>>>>>See: <https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=ioctl%5C%28.*TIOCSTI> > >>>>>>>>>>notable programs are: agetty, csh, xemacs and tcsh > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>However, I still believe that this change is worth it given that the > >>>>>>>>>>Kconfig defaults to n. This will be a feature that is turned on for the > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>It's not worthless, but note that for instance before this was fixed > >>>>>>>>>in lxc, this patch would not have helped with escapes from privileged > >>>>>>>>>containers. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I assume you are talking about this CVE: > >>>>>>>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411256 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>In retrospect, is there any way that an escape from a privileged > >>>>>>>>container with the this bug could have been prevented? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I don't know, that's what I was probing for. Detecting that the pgrp > >>>>>>>or session - heck, the pid namespace - has changed would seem like a > >>>>>>>good indicator that it shouldn't be able to push. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>pgrp and session won't do because in the case we are discussing > >>>>>>current->signal->tty is the same as tty. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>This is the current check that is already in place: > >>>>>>| if ((current->signal->tty != tty) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN)) > >>>>>>| return -EPERM; > >>>>> > >>>>>Yeah... > >>>>> > >>>>>>The only thing I could find to detect the tty message coming from a > >>>>>>container is as follows: > >>>>>>| task_active_pid_ns(current)->level > >>>>>> > >>>>>>This will be zero when run on the host, but 1 when run inside a > >>>>>>container. However this is very much a hack and could probably break > >>>>>>some userland stuff where there are multiple levels of namespaces. > >>>>> > >>>>>Yes. This is also however why I don't like the current patch, because > >>>>>capable() will never be true in a container, so nested containers > >>>>>break. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>What do you mean by "capable() will never be true in a container"? > >>>>My understanding > >>>>is that if a container is given CAP_SYS_ADMIN then > >>>>capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) will return > >>>>true? > >>> > >>>No, capable(X) checks for X with respect to the initial user namespace. > >>>So for root-owned containers it will be true, but containers running in > >>>non-initial user namespaces cannot pass that check. > >>> > >>>To check for privilege with respect to another user namespace, you need > >>>to use ns_capable. But for that you need a user_ns to target. > >>> > >> > >>How about: ns_capable(current_user_ns(),CAP_SYS_ADMIN) ? > >> > >>current_user_ns() was found in include/linux/cred.h > > > >Any user can create a new user namespace and pass the above check. What we > >want is to find the user namespace which opened the tty. > > > > I believe I have a working solution that I can show in the next version > of the patch later today, but I just want to run the logic by you first. > > I added: "struct user_namespace *owner_user_ns;" as a field in > tty_struct (include/linux/tty.h) Note: I am totally open to suggestions > for a better name. > > Then I added "tty->owner_user_ns = current_user_ns();" to the > alloc_tty_struct function. (drivers/tty/tty_io.c) That's what I was hoping could work. Then you can check ns_capable with respect to that. You'll want to grab a reference to the user_ns, and drop it on final close, but otherwise this sounds good to me. I don't really know the tty layer well though so we'll need some sanity checking from someone who does. > When testing with a docker container, running in a different user > namespace, I printed out current_user_ns()->level, which returned 1, > and tty->owner_user_ns->level, which returned 0. This seems to prove > that I am correctly storing the user namespace which opened the tty. > > Please let me know if there are any edge cases that I am missing with > this approach. Thanks for posting this! This seems like the best solution to me.
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