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Message-ID: <18d1e9d1-1e52-b9a6-de26-2f33859ec052@stressinduktion.org> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:31:20 +0100 From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org> To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>, David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com> Cc: Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@...il.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>, "Daniel J . Bernstein" <djb@...yp.to>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] siphash: add cryptographically secure hashtable function Hello, On 15.12.2016 19:50, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hi David & Hannes, > > This conversation is veering off course. Why? > I think this doesn't really > matter at all. Gcc converts u64 into essentially a pair of u32 on > 32-bit platforms, so the alignment requirements for 32-bit is at a > maximum 32 bits. On 64-bit platforms the alignment requirements are > related at a maximum to the biggest register size, so 64-bit > alignment. For this reason, no matter the behavior of __aligned(8), > we're okay. Likewise, even without __aligned(8), if gcc aligns structs > by their biggest member, then we get 4 byte alignment on 32-bit and 8 > byte alignment on 64-bit, which is fine. There's no 32-bit platform > that will trap on a 64-bit unaligned access because there's no such > thing as a 64-bit access there. In short, we're fine. ARM64 and x86-64 have memory operations that are not vector operations that operate on 128 bit memory. How do you know that the compiler for some architecture will not chose a more optimized instruction to load a 64 bit memory value into two 32 bit registers if you tell the compiler it is 8 byte aligned but it actually isn't? I don't know the answer but telling the compiler some data is 8 byte aligned while it isn't really pretty much seems like a call for trouble. Why can't a compiler not vectorize this code if it can prove that it doesn't conflict with other register users? Bye, Hannes
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