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Message-ID: <20161102212310.c7r2oyh2q2wfbupg@thigreal>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 23:23:10 +0200
From: Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@...il.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@...el.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
	"AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@...aro.org>,
	"arnd@...db.de" <arnd@...db.de>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"Anvin, H Peter" <h.peter.anvin@...el.com>,
	David Windsor <dwindsor@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 PATCH 01/13] Add architecture
 independent hardened atomic base

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:19:47AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> (List reply got dropped?)

Oh, sorry. Patching this back like this, hope that's okay.

> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@...il.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, should probably have thought about that! :)
> >
> > Still would need to do some other changes too, the macro definitions are
> > currently repeated in several places, so we cannot just directly replace those
> > with inline functions (e.g. we have the same ifndef->defines both in atomic and
> > atomic-long, and perhaps elsewhere). Perhaps we should add a separate
> > atomic_wrap header for the atomic_wrap definitions similar to local_wrap.h?
> >
> > Would also need to decide how HARDENED_ATOMIC implemented archs manage this.
> > Currently, when not enabled, it doesn't matter whether arch _wrap functions
> > exist, they just get "hidden" by the macros. Admittedly it would probably be
> > better to get rid of this ambiguity too.
> 
> If it's going to be a lot of work, perhaps skip this for now, since
> maybe the other upstream folks interested in atomic won't share my
> opinion. :) We can re-address it in the future, if needed.

I did some quick testing with atomic_t and local_t, and got it put together
relatively easy. Most of the work spent on figuring out the macro define
approach applies here too.

Arch specific-wise (at least as far x86 goes) this required only minor
changes, mainly a bit more consistent approach to guarding _wrap definitions
depending on CONFIG_HARDENED_ATOMIC. So I don't expect this would require any
considerable changes for ARM either.

That said, I haven't yet played around with atomic64/atomic_long_t, and probably
need to take a closer look at default definitions linux/atomic.h, so I might be
celebrating too soon.

Best Regards,
-hans liljestrand

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