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Message-ID: <20161006022701.GX14666@pc.thejh.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 04:27:01 +0200
From: Jann Horn <jann@...jh.net>
To: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
Cc: kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Any artists around?
On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 12:32:20AM +0200, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:16:07PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > >> Does anyone have some suggestions or sketches for a logo we could use?
> > >
> > > How about a bikeshed? It would convey how hardening is not "perfect
> > > security", and ack the irony of spending time on discussing a logo.
> > > I don't even have a preference as to which color the bikeshed should be.
> >
> > Haha, yes, exactly. This is the opening image I used in my slides
> > covering the uid-0/ring-0 lockdown series at LSS on 2014:
> >
> > https://outflux.net/bikeshed.jpg
>
> Oh, cool. Meanwhile, my Twitter poll ended in favor of bikeshed:
>
> https://twitter.com/solardiz/status/783033528736940032
>
> "What should (Linux) Kernel Self Protection Project's logo be?
>
> 32% A fancy penguin
> 42% A bikeshed
> 7% Other (please tweet what)
> 19% No logo
>
> 116 votes"
>
> A bikeshed would also ack the grsecurity project's opinion (as I
> understand it) that trying to upstream hardening changes (through the
> hoops) is sort of bikeshedding (in comparison with having made such
> changes) or that the typical initial response (those hoops) is
> bikeshedding, and that some of those changes (not in grsecurity) are a
> bikeshed on their own. This shouldn't stop us, but we can troll
> ourselves a bit by ack'ing this dissenting opinion in the logo. ;-)
A bikeshed sounds good, but maybe we can split the bikeshed image into
a few tiles and rearrange them? You know, kASLR?
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