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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:00:43 +0300
From: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@...il.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Cc: kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic
vmalloced stack support
2016-06-21 21:32 GMT+03:00 Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>:
> On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 10:13 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm tempted to explicitly disallow VM_NO_GUARD in the vmalloc
>> > range.
>> > It has no in-tree users for non-fixed addresses right now.
>> What about the lack of pre-range guard page? That seems like a
>> critical feature for this. :)
>
> If VM_NO_GUARD is disallowed, and every vmalloc area has
> a guard area behind it, then every subsequent vmalloc area
> will have a guard page ahead of it.
>
> I think disallowing VM_NO_GUARD will be all that is required.
>
VM_NO_GUARD is a flag of vm_struct. But some vmalloc areas don't have
vm_struct (see vm_map_ram())
and don't have guard pages too. Once, vm_map_ram() had guard pages,
but they were removed in
248ac0e1943a ("mm/vmalloc: remove guard page from between vmap blocks")
due to exhaustion of vmalloc space on 32-bits. I guess we can
resurrect guard page on 64bits without any problems.
AFAICS per-cpu vmap blocks also don't have guard pages. pcpu vmaps
have vm_struct *without* VM_NO_GUARD, but
don't actually have the guard pages. It seems to be a harmless bug,
because pcpu vmaps use their own alloc/free paths
(pcp_get_vm_areas()/pcpu_free_vm_areas())
and just don't care about vm->flags content.
Fortunately, pcpu_get_vm_areas() allocates from top of vmalloc, so the
gap between pcpu vmap and regular vmalloc() should be huge.
> The only thing we may want to verify on the architectures that
> we care about is that there is nothing mapped immediately before
> the start of the vmalloc range, otherwise the first vmalloced
> area will not have a guard page below it.
>
> I suspect all the 64 bit architectures are fine in that regard,
> with enormous gaps between kernel memory ranges.
>
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