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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:52:10 -0800
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>, "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...isc-linux.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] init: create cmdline param to disable readonly
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
> * Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA
>
> Btw., could you please remove the Kconfig option altogether in an additional patch
> and make read-only sections an always-on feature? It has been default-y for years
> and all distros have it enabled.
Yeah, this is something I've wanted to do for a while, but I would
point out that only a few architectures have actually implemented it,
and for arm and arm64 it was very recent:
$ git grep 'config DEBUG_RODATA'
arch/arm/mm/Kconfig:config DEBUG_RODATA
arch/arm64/Kconfig.debug:config DEBUG_RODATA
arch/parisc/Kconfig.debug:config DEBUG_RODATA
arch/x86/Kconfig.debug:config DEBUG_RODATA
I think s390 already has strict kernel memory permissions, but they
set it up ahead of time. And now, I see in reading the parisc tree,
they do too, and mark_rodata_ro() is effectively a no-op. How does
powerpc handle permissions for kernel rodata?
For parisc (and maybe powerpc and s390) we'll need additional changes
to support __ro_after_init, since they may be making the ro section ro
_before_ init runs. But, that's okay since this series only uses
__ro_after_init on x86 for the moment. ;)
> The 'debug rodata' naming is purely historic: this started out as a simple
> debugging feature, but meanwhile it has spread and has become an essential kernel
> robustness feature.
I agree completely. I suspect I would turn this into
ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNMEM or something.
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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