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Message-ID: <20110810164225.GA32177@openwall.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:42:25 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: 32/64 bitness restriction for pid namespace On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 08:21:01PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 19:40 +0400, Solar Designer wrote: > > > 1) vzctl start - a process creates an environment, does prctl() and > > > execve's init. > > > > > > 2) vzctl enter - a process does some ioctl() magic to enter already > > > created namespaces and vz environment. > > > > > > For (1) prctl() is just what is needed. For (2) IMO it's better to lock > > > the process in this ioctl() (keep it ovz-specific for now) as I don't > > > see how upstream can handle this kind of namespace shift. > > > > Why not use the same prctl() for both? (There's also vzctl exec, but > > it's similar to vzctl enter for the purpose of this discussion.) > > > > There's not much of a difference between execve() of /sbin/init and of > > the shell. > > There is - if we exec init, there is no process in the namespace yet. > If exec the shell, an already existing root process may ptrace vzctl > process, which hasn't exec'ed and hasn't locked itself yet. I don't > know how vzctl is protected against such races. Good point, but I think it is protected against ptrace by the guest, or at least it was. My OpenVZ audit report from late 2005 includes this: 2.2. Testing and review of "strace" logs revealed that only the first 16 fd's were being closed on VPS entry. This needs to be corrected. Also, the fd's are being closed _after_ the ioctl call, which is not great, although the risk is now mitigated by having the VPS-entering process protected from ptrace(2). Of course, mainline code / LXC might differ from OpenVZ in this respect, and the OpenVZ code might have changed. So this is something to revisit when we add the bitness restriction. Alexander
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