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Message-ID: <df61d2a3-f463-4299-b5cc-fddb514d4eae@jeffunit.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:06:25 -0700
From: jeff <jeff@...funit.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: stacking 3 rules with john ?
On 4/21/2025 8:34 AM, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 07:26:44PM -0700, jeff wrote:
>> I am cracking NTLM passwords. I have roughly 90 million unfound
>> passwords in my password file.
>>
>> Currently, I am applying 2 rules to a dictionary with john.
>>
>> This is the command line I am using:
>>
>> john.exe --fork=26 --format=NT --verbosity=2 --no-log
>> --wordlist=<a_big_wordlist> --rules=by-score --rules-stack=best-by-score
>> --dupe=0 <a_big_password_file>
>>
>> I have been running this for about 8 months, and it has slowed down
>> quite a bit (which I expected).
> Not finished in 8 months? This makes me wonder just how big your
> wordlist is.
It is 813 million lines of found unique passwords from the have I been
pwned dataset.
I suppose that is a bit on the large side.
Estimated time of completion is December 2026 :-(
>> I was wondering if it would be possible to stack up the rules, applying
>> 3 of them to my big wordlist?
> We have no built-in support for stacking more than 2 rulesets. You
> could achieve this by running two instances of "john" and having one of
> them feed the other via a pipe, but in this case I do not recommend it.
>
> I think you'll have better results by staying with at most 2 stacked
> rulesets, but also trying different/larger ones with smaller wordlists.
I am using the standard rulesets. If there are enhanced or bigger
rulesets, I would appreciate a pointer to them.
thanks,
jeff
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