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Message-ID: <CAJ9ii1E4FA8AyQYv=4P+tiH_xyxrJWPyOH85aY8yt0hP=C189A@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 20:34:43 -0400 From: Matt Weir <cweir@...edu> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: JtR Rules Questions I've been playing around with John the Ripper rules, (this is a holdover from the Crack Me if You Can competition), and I had some questions about what I'm seeing and the best way to do things. Note: The following observations are with John the Ripper 1.9.0-jumbo-1+bleeding-c80015001 As some further background, part of this investigation is into trying to replicate the "random rule" (-g flag) option in Hashcat. 1) It doesn't seem like the delete first character '[' rule is working on the command line: echo "test" | john --pipe --stdout --rules=':[' Using default input encoding: UTF-8 test 1p 0:00:00:00 0.00% 1.515p/s test Note, the delete last character rule ']' does work echo "test" | john --pipe --stdout --rules=':]' Using default input encoding: UTF-8 Enabling duplicate candidate password suppressor tes 1p 0:00:00:00 0.00% 1.538p/s tes 2) With the rule preprocessor, is there an easy way to specify all 'special' characters? Trying to capture them while getting the escaping correct is very difficult. Aka for alphanumeric I can specify Az"[a-zA-Z0-9]". (Side note, if there is an easier way I'd be interested in that). But how should I do that for all special characters, or for that matter, all ASCII characters? 3) I notice that some commands play well within the rule preprocessor and others do not. For example the following works: echo "test" | john --pipe --stdout --rules=':[cul]' Using default input encoding: UTF-8 Enabling duplicate candidate password suppressor Test TEST test 3p 0:00:00:00 0.00% 4.225p/s test But you can't seem to do an append in the rule preprocess. So for example: echo "test" | john --pipe --stdout --rules=':[$0]' Using default input encoding: UTF-8 Invalid rule in Command Line Rule at line 0: Unexpected end of rule $ This isn't so much a question vs. a comment I guess... To turn it into a question, is there a list or set of rules that are "approved" to work in the rule preprocessor Thanks! Matt / @Lakiw
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