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Message-ID: <20210405212116.GA5099@openwall.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 23:21:17 +0200 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Help crafting a specific ruleset Hi Alan, On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 01:55:21PM -0600, alan somers wrote: > I need to recover one of my own passwords that I've forgotten. But I > haven't *completely* forgotten it, only *slightly* forgotten. So I think > John can recover it quickly if I can just figure out how to craft a > suitably specific ruleset. Could somebody please help me? > > * I remember the beginning (let's call it "abc") > * I have a pretty good idea of the length. It's probably between X and Y > characters long > * The remaining characters are drawn from a small set (let's call it > [qwerty$%^]) > * No character is repeated > * I even have a good guess at the order of the characters, though obviously > not perfect. Ideally John would be able to start from my guess and iterate > from there. > > How would I express this to John? The primary way to do it would be to use mask mode, like this: ./john -2='qwerty$%^' -mask='abc?2' -min-len=X -max-len=Y hash.txt or: ./john -mask='abc[qwerty$%^]' -min-len=X -max-len=Y hash.txt or: ./john -mask='abc[qwe][qwerty][rty][$%^]' hash.txt ./john -mask='abc[qwe][qwerty][rty][rty][$%^]' hash.txt ./john -mask='abc[qwe][qwerty][rty][rty][rty][$%^]' hash.txt If your hash type is slow, you can add "--external=Filter_NoRepeats" to any of these commands. With a fast hash, this isn't worth the overhead. Another way would be to put your one guess or a few guesses at the password into a wordlist file and apply word mangling rules to that: echo 'abcqwerty$%^' > word.txt ./john -w=word.txt --rules=oi hash.txt Here, "oi" is a pre-defined ruleset that performs some overstrikes and inserts. A weird trick you could also try is to train JtR's incremental mode on your guess(es): echo ':abcqwerty$%^' >> fake.pot # ... and more of these here; also note the leading colon ./john --make-charset=custom.chr --pot=fake.pot ./john --incremental=custom hash.txt Alexander
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