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Message-ID: <20191130115131.GA2747@openwall.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:51:31 +0100 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: How does john detect salt On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 09:17:48PM +0000, David Taylor wrote: > Given a password input such as > > $argon2i$m=700000,t=1,p=8$ncckjx4uQTSp37MMsQWtH+SDj+q/kl/RgVsbpuR/dHP6KsWym8oHbCr7Vt161Cd8 > > how could john detect which of the bytes are salt and which are password? For this specific input, it can't. That input is invalid. > If a standard pattern of identifying the bytes which are part of the salt is not possible, The patterns vary by hash type, and are implemented in the corresponding JtR formats. > would any wordlist/dictionary/mask attack still be usable? Of course, but I don't see how that question is related to what you asked about salts. Alexander
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