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Message-ID: <55BDD4A4.1050003@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:28:20 +0200
From: Marek Wrzosek <marek.wrzosek@...il.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Why does john display some cracked passwords twice?
W dniu 30.07.2015 o 10:04, Marek Wrzosek pisze:
> W dniu 29.07.2015 o 20:45, Solar Designer pisze:
>> You don't need to remove them. John's output during cracking is just
>> for you to be aware of its progress, and john.pot is normally for John's
>> internal use. The actual cracking results you should obtain with "john
>> --show passwordfileshere", and this won't show any duplicates even if
>> there are duplicate lines in your pot file.
What is maximum size of pot file?
>> Sure, your use of --fork is fine.
>>
>>
>> Why, I guess it completed much quicker with --fork than it would have
>> without, even if it produced some duplicate cracks.
I think, that depends on how many processes and how often are cracking
the exact same passwords, so in certain circumferences maybe OpenMP is
better. Is there somewhere a comparison of OpenMP and fork? What are
pros and cons of both solutions?
>> I would be happier to end this thread when we have a specific
>> conclusion: a JtR bug (e.g., if reproducible with modes other than
>> wordlist and loopback) or just an expected side-effect of having similar
>> input words (e.g., what you saw is not surprising at all if that was in
>> loopback mode, where you could have the same passwords already in your
>> john.pot, e.g. for different salts). Thank you, Marek.
>>
>> Alexander
>>
Actually, there was no salts, I was cracking raw-md5. This was test of
my new (used) CPU, I was starting fresh, so there are only MD5 hashes
from this crack.
I checked markov and incremental already with and without mask mode -
there is no duplicates in pot file, so far, but I've (re-)discovered
something interesting (but not john-related, it's more mind-related).
Using markov mode (or incremental) with mask mode (I was using ?w?d?d)
and depending on what passwords are encrypted in your hashes could cause
output like that:
mavjoy22 (?)
gaberh24 (?)
gabe0812 (?)
gabou812 (?)
gabi1025 (?)
gabi2136 (?)
gabija99 (?)
gab012698 (?)
once6996 (?)
bt098756 (?)
There could be more pairs like:
gabe0812 (?)
gabou812 (?)
fast scrolling across the screen (or terminal window) they look the same
for human eyes. Imagine seeing this for few days et voilà. I was using
loopback mode from time to time (which is probably the main producer of
duplicates), so I'm not sure which duplicate come from which mode. I
wasn't searching for duplicates before it starts alarming me.
Best Regards
--
Marek Wrzosek
marek.wrzosek@...il.com
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