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Message-ID: <b3734b2c23282e12b1484509c5aa65f5@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 07:55:42 +0100 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Cracking MSChap v2 On 2014-01-13 23:54, Rob Fuller wrote: > Looked through the source and mailing list, but couldn't find it, has there > been any work on cracking NetNTLMv1 down to NTLM hashes? > > http://markgamache.blogspot.com/2013/01/ntlm-challenge-response-is-100-broken.html > https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/ Not exactly (would be easy but not that quick on CPU) but we do brute force the last third. Here are figures without taking this advantage: Benchmarking: netntlm-naive, NTLMv1 C/R [MD4 DES (ESS MD5) DES 128/128 AVX-16 naive]... DONE Many salts: 80125K c/s real, 79332K c/s virtual Only one salt: 6513K c/s real, 6513K c/s virtual Benchmarking: mschapv2-naive, MSCHAPv2 C/R [MD4 DES DES 128/128 AVX-16 naive]... DONE Many salts: 78937K c/s real, 78937K c/s virtual Only one salt: 6808K c/s real, 6808K c/s virtual ...and here are figures when we exploit this: Benchmarking: netntlm, NTLMv1 C/R [MD4 DES (ESS MD5) 128/128 AVX 16x]... DONE Many salts: 6959M c/s real, 6959M c/s virtual Only one salt: 29785K c/s real, 29785K c/s virtual Benchmarking: MSCHAPv2, C/R [MD4 DES (ESS MD5) 128/128 AVX 16x]... DONE Many salts: 7097M c/s real, 7168M c/s virtual Only one salt: 30756K c/s real, 30756K c/s virtual In the latter case and multiple salts, we're approaching speeds normally only seen with GPU. magnum
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