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Message-ID: <ff7c332fb65a1ab34be08d300aa3502b@smtp.hushmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:19:49 +0100
From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: jtr newbie: getting no hashes loaded message

Please don't top-post.

Did you read my entire mail? If you literally changed that ":" to "$" it 
won't work (yes it will load, but it will not crack). It needs to be 
"$|" to include that static pipe character.

magnum


On 2013-12-05 01:10, Donald Raikes wrote:
> Magnum,
>
> Thanks again!
>
> After changing the ":" to a "$" I get 450,000 hashes loaded with 4096 different salts.
>
> Now it is just a matter of waiting for the process to finish.
>
>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:17:34 +0100
>> From: john.magnum@...hmail.com
>> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
>> Subject: Re: [john-users] jtr newbie: getting no hashes loaded message
>>
>> On 2013-12-05 00:08, Donald Raikes wrote:
>>> Magnum,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the hints. I had already thought of the dynamic_62 format, but when I run:
>>>
>>> $ ./john --format dynamic_62 pwd.txt
>>>
>>> I get no hashes loaded.
>>
>> That is because you use ':' between hash and salt as opposed to the '$'
>> I suggested.
>>
>>> When I run:
>>>
>>> $ ./john --format=raw-sha256 pwd.txt
>>> I get 452,000 hashes loaded
>>>
>>> However, when I combine the second command with a wordlist of over 18,000,000 words, it returns 0 matches.
>>
>> Trying to crack salted hashes with an unsalted format will do no good.
>> Although actually if a password candidate happens to end with the
>> literal salt, it will be cracked (claiming the salt was part of the
>> password).
>>
>>> According to the java source code that was used to generate teh file, the hash was created as follows:
>>>
>>> 1. a secure random 12-bit number is generated.
>>> 2. sha256($p+"|"+$s);
>>
>> Here's an important detail. It seems we have a literal "|" character to
>> deal with too. Instead of hacking source code and rebuild JtR, you can
>> add that literal character so eg. a salt of "1234" is listed as "|1234".
>>
>>> 3. base64_encode(hash from #2);
>>>
>>> I wrote a java program to base64_decode the encoded hash and print it in hexadecimal format.
>>> I checked the output with an online base64 to hex converter and it was correct.
>>>
>>> so now my file format is:
>>>
>>> username:sha256($p.$s):salt
>>>
>>> When I ran the second format of the john command from above it said that 452,000 hashes were loaded wit h 0 different salts.
>>>
>>> it seems like the salts are not being taken into account.
>>>
>>> a snippet of my password file is below:
>>>
>>> ShortChic74@...oo.com:D59E1B36975F72F2D15BFFBB522F33953636EFB4ABAEAC749A560384A33A9D75:2179
>>> mirda@...l.uajy.ac.id:11C23E4E4167803DC83AB04AB6BF17B9EF60EE3C957D3DFA974144E131BC617B:2018
>>> Hayley_06jf@...oo.com:90C662E90AD50F4114FCC5A2F3EA82738C25B64BB716CB811B320816F7DDD7A0:387
>>> mjharleygirl83@....com:5BF2293A6088C85AC23CBC82A074B76C05CECDC7FAE42AEF9B8DDC3AAD09FCE8:2802
>>>
>>> Any tips welcome :-)
>>
>> This works (using dynamic_62):
>> ShortChic74@...oo.com:D59E1B36975F72F2D15BFFBB522F33953636EFB4ABAEAC749A560384A33A9D75$|2179
>> mirda@...l.uajy.ac.id:11C23E4E4167803DC83AB04AB6BF17B9EF60EE3C957D3DFA974144E131BC617B$|2018
>> Hayley_06jf@...oo.com:90C662E90AD50F4114FCC5A2F3EA82738C25B64BB716CB811B320816F7DDD7A0$|387
>> mjharleygirl83@....com:5BF2293A6088C85AC23CBC82A074B76C05CECDC7FAE42AEF9B8DDC3AAD09FCE8$|2802
>>
>> I *know* that, because I just now cracked one of them. Oh, make that two.
>>
>> magnum
>>
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