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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 00:02:36 -0500
From: Kevin Szilvasy <sziljewel@...il.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: How best to compute this via john
Not necessarily. If is the intersection of emotion and logic wherein
memory affixes. Therefore that element. Of which one is most impressive d
by. Becomes more likely as an element of prospect for passwords. Go figure
prediction of human nature....
On Oct 8, 2013 6:43 PM, "Stephen John Smoogen" <smooge@...il.com> wrote:
> On 8 October 2013 16:52, Kevin Young <kevin.p.young@...il.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Stephen,
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts and comments.
> >
> > Sentence as it is
> > Sentence lowercased
> > Sentence no punctuation/lowercased
> > First 2 words of sentence
> > First 3 words of sentence
> > ....
> >
> > When we pull them the first thing we do is strip out all punctuation.
> It's
> > faster and easier to add the variations later.
> >
> > Same goes for case. Easier to ucase later. And, statistically, we found
> > that very few people use proper case. Again, based on stats, people
> seldom
> > use the space char.
> >
> > We also parse on 2, 3, 4, etc. and sort it by character count. 8 char
> > phrases, 9 char, etc, all the way up to 30 char. The success rate rolls
> off
> > steeply beyond phrases 15 chars in length.
> >
> > We haven't done much with most probable as the results are still so
> widely
> > distributed. We don't see anything like admin, password1, guest, letmein,
> > changeme, etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> My guess is that the size of the needed hashes would have to be much much
> larger to start figuring out what areas are higher. Human nature though
> would say that first sentences in first paragraph in first chapters are
> probably high. Then first lines of poems and then first lines of
> soliloquies
>
> --
> Stephen J Smoogen.
>
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