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Message-ID: <e7359dbc8e35193bc9273ac59611dac5@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 09:55:21 +0200 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Rule-derived guesses after wordlist? On 25 Jul, 2013, at 20:47 , Rafael Veras <rafaveguim@...il.com> wrote: > While running JtR in wordlist mode with rules, I expected that, given a > word, the guesses derived from it were tried immediately after its original > form. > > Assuming a wordlist [password, letmein], the guesses would be: > > password > Password > letmein > Letmein > > Where "Password" and "Letmein" are the derived guesses. Assuming your first rule is ':' (no-op) and/or your rules are sorted as most likely first, that behaviour would be suboptimal. > However, I found that the guesses derived from the rules are actually tried > after the entire wordlist has been guessed, like: > > password > letmein > Password > Letmein > > Is there any parameter I can use to produce the first behavior? Not currently but due to other changes (eg. rules x rules) it might be supported later. Coincidentally, I believe this would also be slower in most use cases. magnum
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