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Message-ID: <CANWtx00nuJr_dPJpyK6Ovk-ghVzsK_Dit-zN=rpwWmqQy1G+Vg@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:15:52 -0400 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Sandra Schlichting <littlesandra88@...il.com > wrote: > I see. --show was the problem, and now I am also using Jumbo I compiled my > self =) > > Is it possible to have it only search for combinations of a-z, A-Z, and > '-' ? > Yes, you can use an external mode to do it through "dumb force" (aaa, aab, aac, aad etc..), do you know how long they will be? The all possible combinations can be tried in minutes, days, months, years depending on length. The incremental and markov modes choose strings based on likelihood/statistics rather than just iterating through every possible combination in order. If the passwords are going to be over 8 characters, you will have to re-compile john so that it's incremental mode will work with more than 8 characters. Markov does not use the .chr files so it wouldn't be limited or need to be compiled to support longer lengths but it does have to be trained. http://openwall.info/wiki/john/markov (patch not needed if using latest sources) You can train your markov stats on prefiltered wordlists that only contain the characters your looking for, and incremental as well.These should be faster methods than old brute foce aka dumb force. Might also be a good idea to use pure alpha word's from wordlists, and simply overstrike and or insert "dashes" in various places. I can help on the dumbforce, incremental and probably a gew wordlist rules but I've never used markov myself. If you have more info about these hashes it might help choose which methods to use. -rich
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