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Message-ID: <20130203100115.GA26770@openwall.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:01:15 +0400
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Hashcat BF++ vs JtR Incremental and Markov Modes: (was How does incremental mode works?)

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 01:26:58PM +0400, Elijah SmarTeam wrote:
> Quite impressive progress made by hashcat
> http://www.adeptus-mechanicus.com/codex/markov2/markov2.php
> comparing to last test
> http://www.adeptus-mechanicus.com/codex/jtrhcmkv/jtrhcmkv.php
> and atom says that this is not the limit and thereis still space for
> improvements
> https://twitter.com/hashcat/status/297992632485941248

Yeah.  I've just commented on this on Twitter.  Reusing my tweets:

At first glance, it appears that the training and test sets have huge
overlap, which is not the case we optimize for / care about.  IIUC, the
training sets are 15%/30%/100% subsets of the test set.  Normally,
training set passwords are not seen in hashes to crack.  Anyhow, there's
obviously huge improvement between hashcat 0.41 and 0.42 (or unreleased
betas leading to 0.43?)  Well done, atom!

Alexander

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