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Message-Id: <0B6BE4C7-CE5F-4F8E-84CF-B5CA734B4057@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:56:36 -0500 From: kzug <kzug10@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: What do you recommend as a laptop cracking station? :) It's going to be a point of contention, but… I personally (me, myself and I ) believes that buying a laptop for that sole purpose is not the most financially wise decision. A laptop is not something that is easily upgradable nor re-configurable, it runs hot and will not allow for a second card to be installed. Build your own desktop, get something upgradable, …or use Amazon EC2 , As many GPU as you want to, for as long as you want to. > Is it really worth > to buy a strong GPU card? Or is it better get more and more powerful > processors? GPU (s). definitively . They're cheaper and faster …. Matt/Rich/Magnum can explain in details http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/passwords-under-assault/ http://ob-security.info/?p=274 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/06/01/how-a-cheap-graphics-card-could-crack-your-password-in-under-a-second/ http://contest-2012.korelogic.com/ On WednesdayNov 21, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Richard Miles wrote: > Hi > > I'm considering buying a new laptop and I want to do a decision based on > specs to crack passwords, in other words, I need a real animal to crack > passwords, I now that laptops are not as powerful as desktops, but I hope > to find something really good. > > I looked at AllienWare and Macbook PRO and I got a bit frustrated. I don't > know if it exist, but I was looking for a laptop with at least 8 cores and > at least one AMD 7970GPU. Do you have any recommendation? Or suggestion of > better configuration for a laptop being used as a password cracking > station? :) > > Also, I don't have experience with the GPU cracking, but I often see people > telling that a few password hash formats are supported. Is it really worth > to buy a strong GPU card? Or is it better get more and more powerful > processors? > > Most of the passwords that I have to crack are NTLM, NetNTLMv1, NetNTLMv2, > mscache, halfLM, mysql, mysql network authentication, mssql, msql05, oracle > hashes (local store and network) and a few passwords stored at shadow file > (linux most of the time). > > I remember that I was reading some recent slides from Solar Designer where > he talked about a new technology (Intel?) that incorporate a LOT of CPUs > and looks as a strong competitor for GPU and do not require that amount of > change on the code as GPU does. I could wait for this new technology is > there is a date to be release and price available, but I would not like to > wait like 1 year to get a new laptop to play with passwords. > > You advised and recommendations are very welcome. > > Thanks and sorry if it's a bit off-topic.
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