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Message-ID: <CANnLRdgcyQJ2-GJVW-3mm3pRwy5k2HKv=sxCksCCeKu_X0Pkng@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:40:17 -0600 From: Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: any plans to support superlong passwords? On 3 August 2012 12:23, Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com> wrote: > On 08/03/2012 08:07 PM, Aleksey Cherepanov wrote: >> Team Hashcat said: "... recent breaches. Statistically the average >> password length is eight (8) characters." >> (https://contest-2012.korelogic.com/team_hashcat.html ) > > That is he average length of hashes they cracked. > Did they mention what percentage of hashes they cracked? > May be the longer passwords remained uncracked. > So this could also be some kind of "self-fulfilling prophecy. > Because most passwords had length 8 in the past, the focus on passwords > of length 8, and (suprise!) they find passwords of length 8. > > Frank OK from looking at what I have from the linkedin.pot Overall (with 4106655 out of 6143150 cracked in my tests) 1378901 8 723286 9 585288 7 569405 6 452748 10 202813 11 105334 12 45508 13 23400 14 10729 15 8055 16 [all entries below that are greater than 16 characters] There are 2 million left, but I have exhausted less than 1% of the 8 character lenths and only 80% of 7 characters (my systems are very slow that are doing this). Looking at what has been published about the Eharmony etc match those general estimates in length] Concentrating on the part of the linkedin parts that were not previous hacked (eg not the first 6 digits 0'd out) I had been able to find 1004733 out of 2621970 354342 8 246332 9 158609 10 79884 11 58520 7 44160 12 22182 13 15334 6 12519 14 6435 15 5550 16 which basically points an average of 8-9 characters (again 1.1 million could all be greater than 16 characters and I don't know it yet... give me 2 years and I can give a better estimate). Looking though at the plain text ones (eg rockyou and the various other plaintext ones..) 8 is the average size of passwords there. Usually in the form of the same ones we have been finding for the last 20 years. -- Stephen J Smoogen. "Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it." Linus Torvalds "Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd
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