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Message-ID: <BANLkTimQY3hAzXz35U8AnZWJ-qDiFt_O2Q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:09:57 -0400 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Supercharged John the Ripper Techniques by Rick Redman of KoreLogic On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM, minga <minga@...ga.com> wrote: > Fyi. > > Rick = Minga = CrackMeIfYouCan = Me. > > That is my presentation for people "new" to password cracking and not really > john experts. I had to remove LOTS of john-specific information from there > because I never got in front of an actual group of john-users. i.e. markov, > ETC. > > The URL to that site is private. But sites like that do exist - and are > actively being used to compromise stolen passwords. That was the point of that > slide. i.e. no one is safe .. blah blah blah. > > Also - that PDF was made to be geared toward members of OWASP - so there are > multiple references to web development/web passwords/etc. > > -Minga M$'s password complexity requirements, which I don't think are applied by default, and only apply to domain accounts (but can be applied to against local accounts) have the following requirements: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786468%28WS.10%29.aspx Passwords must contain characters from three of the following five categories: 1 Uppercase characters of European languages (A through Z, with diacritic marks, Greek and Cyrillic characters) 2 Lowercase characters of European languages (a through z, sharp-s, with diacritic marks, Greek and Cyrillic characters) 3 Base 10 digits (0 through 9) 4 Nonalphanumeric characters: ~!@...^&*_-+=`|\(){}[]:;"'<>,.?/ 5 Any Unicode character that is categorized as an alphabetic character but is not uppercase or lowercase. This includes Unicode characters from Asian languages. These are applied to every AD install I've audited for the past few years. I was looking through John.conf and noticed the "External:Policy" (as well as a few others) mode. I see this is a recent addition, and one I plan on testing right now, I'd like to make changes and additions to cover the various possible combinations, of which there are many... with 3 of the 5 being the minimum, a password could contain 4 or all 5 of the various requirements. The 5th (unicode) doesn't occur much in my experience, so maybe I'll focus on the other 4 that I do see. 8 chars is the minimum I've seen for an AD password in recent years this is getting longer and longer, and the LM hash is fading from storage as well. I'll just poke around and mess things up for a bit, then cry for help here later :) -rich
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