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Message-ID: <20110411140820.GB9531@openwall.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:08:20 +0400
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: irc channel for Openwall
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 06:49:47PM +0300, Shinnok wrote:
> I have been looking for an official irc channel for Openwall where
> people can ask questions or just idle around on issues pertaining to
> JtR, Owl, oss-security and everything Openwall in general. Is there an
> #openwall channel somewhere or for individual projects like #owl? I
> have been scouring openwall.com and freenode but I couldn't find
> something official.
There's #openwall on Freenode, but we don't actually idle in there, so
it's usually empty or near-empty. I'm on that channel at the moment,
though - just because you brought the issue up. I see a few others
joining... oh, and you just did, too. :-)
With GSoC, I think it makes sense for us to schedule meetings on the
channel, maybe weekly.
> There is #oss-security on freenode but I'm not sure
> about it's official status?
It was setup by folks from the oss-security mailing list and it is
mentioned on the oss-security wiki:
http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/about
I think it is as official as it can get for a community.
> I find having an interactive communication channel pretty important on
> projects of these size and complexity(thinking Owl and JtR somewhat).
> Most of the other security open source projects have some kind of
> presence on irc, #bactrack-linux for Backtrack, #nmap for Nmap or
> #metasploit for Metasploit, all on freenode, just to name a few.
Right. My concern, though, is that this may result in useful
discussions (such as with JtR usage tips) going IRC-only, with nothing
posted about them to the proper mailing lists. Thus, answers to users'
questions, etc. will benefit a lot fewer people than they do on the
mailing lists.
> A good place for such a channel would be freenode of course and I'm the
> first offering to idle on it and answer questions that I can or ask
> questions of my own.
Thank you! I appreciate this. Would you also post about important
discussions, helpful tips, etc. to the proper mailing lists? That would
be great.
> Apologies for sending this e-mail to john-users, but there's no other
> more appropriate list other then owl-users. If Solar Designer thinks
> this question is appropriate for owl-users too, please forward this to
> that list too.
I think we need to inform owl-users once there's someone idling on the
channel (that is, on #openwall on Freenode). Feel free to post in there.
Thanks again,
Alexander
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