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Message-ID: <5f4239741001211401q5588d588g1649fc6a2f1e1aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:01:44 -0600 From: Minga Minga <mingakore@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Revisit of: --make-charset against a File with LANMAN and NTLM Passes? All, Previously I asked a question about using using --make-chars against a pwdump.txt that contained both LANMAN and NTLM hashes. The problem is, that currently (?) the resulting .chr file will only contain CAPITAL letters because it uses LANMAN as its input. This appears to still be true in the latest version with jumbo patch: "Successfully written charset file: adf.chr (46 characters)" $ strings adf.chr | egrep [a-z] | wc 0 0 0 $ strings adf.chr | egrep [A-Z] | wc 76 76 619 Discussed here; http://marc.info/?l=john-users&m=123811421820149 The solution was: "Oh, you're correct. In version 1.7.3.1-all-5, patch line 66 in options.c removing (or commenting out) "FLG_MAKECHR_CHK | ", and recompile. Then the above command will work as intended (I've just tested it)." ----- The latest version (with jumbo patch) of options.c is: {"make-charset", FLG_MAKECHR_SET, FLG_MAKECHR_CHK, 0, FLG_CRACKING_CHK | FLG_SESSION | OPT_REQ_PARAM, OPT_FMT_STR_ALLOC, &options.charset}, Removing the string "FLG_MAKECHR_CHK |" no longer appears to be a valid fix. ------ Is there a new 'fix' that can be used so that --make-chars can be run against an input file both lanman and NTLM hashes - in order to create a custom .chr file that contains upper and lower case options ? Also: Alexander - to answer your previous question. YES! This is a very effective way of brute forcing credentials when a large sample size is available. When used in conjunction with --markov mode - a large majority of the 30,000+ passwords were cracked. Using this 'trick' quickly cracked passwords that markov mode had not found, and also the original all.chr file had not found as well. Also, sorry I do not have the ability to reply to the previous conversation - so the 'thread' will not be complete. -Minga
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