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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:36:41 -0500
From: Adam Turk <bofh1234@...mail.com>
To: <john-users@...ts.openwall.com>
Subject: RE: ntlm and lm hashes questions
> I have a Windows hash output file that contains some lm hashes and
> some ntlm hashes. Not every user has an lm hash so I would like to
> crack ntlm hashes when lm hashes are not present. I applied the
> ntlm-alainesp patch to John so I can crack ntlm hashes when need be.
> From what I can tell, if I don't specify the format John only attempts
> the lm hashes. Is this correct?
Correct
> Is there a way to have it crack the
> ntlm if no lm is present or will I need to run the processes
> separately, once with the format=LM and then once with format=NT using
> the cut field delimited method listed on the "uppercase only thread" -
> http://www.openwall.com/lists/john-users/2006/07/08/2
Having john trying to crack NTLM and LM hashes is good in theory but
will have a negative impact on performance.
For best results you will have to run a john process on two separate
PCs (one for LM hashes and one for NTLM) or use a PC with a duo or
quad core processor.
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