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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:54:16 +0300
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: HOW TO ? is JOHN the right tool ?? just use my own wordlist and save password combinations to a file...

On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 11:11:40AM +0100, Axel Werner wrote:
> my problem is that i got a list of words n phrases and i was looking for 
> a programm or script that would combine the words (lines) within my 
> personal wordlist file into several possible combinations. there should 
> not be any crackin or unix/passwd stuff. all i need is a plain text file 
> containing combinations of words from my personal word file. lets say.. 
> "possible passwords".

Do you realize that the size of such file will grow very quickly with
the number of input words?  For example, for all possible combinations
of 3 words out of a set of 10,000 words (a rather small wordlist), the
resulting file may be around 20 TB large.

Of course, you do not really need to be saving those candidate passwords
in a file.  Instead, you'd pipe them into whatever password cracker
program you use.

Anyway, there are some trivial Perl scripts that do what you need in
this posting:

> after searching a while through inet i found john and as long i 
> understand it, it seems to contain the functions that i am looking for. 

Not exactly.  It can mangle input words (e.g., replace or add certain
characters), but not combine multiple input words.

On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 03:19:19PM +0100, websiteaccess wrote:
> If you use windows try "raptor" it's a worldist manipulator.

websiteaccess - please try to make your postings a little bit more
valuable, especially when the topic is not directly related to JtR.
This time, you could have provided a little bit more info on Raptor -
homepage URL, brief description of features, and just how it solves the
particular problem (I'm not sure whether it does).  I am not asking you
to post all that info now; I am merely pointing out that you need to
invest a little bit more time into your postings in order for them to be
beneficial for this mailing list members.


Alexander Peslyak <solar at>
GPG key ID: 5B341F15  fp: B3FB 63F4 D7A3 BCCC 6F6E  FC55 A2FC 027C 5B34 1F15 - bringing security into open computing environments

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