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Message-ID: <20060826003607.GA21155@openwall.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:36:07 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Administrivia - list charter Well, this is not really a formal charter (I haven't bothered to write one yet), but rather it is a description of my current stance on off-topic postings and on what, in my opinion, should (not) be posted to this mailing list. The following are some examples of topics that are desirable on this mailing list: + Sharing of experience with using John the Ripper (case studies, useful hints, reviews, benchmarks, etc. - and follow-up postings to those, with corrections, comments, and/or reasonable questions). + Announcements of other tools to be used in conjunction with John the Ripper (shell scripts, JtR source code patches, separate applications). Small pieces of source code may be posted to the list, whereas for large and/or binary files only download URLs may be posted. + Discussions of the inner workings of John the Ripper. + Discussions of other _closely_ related matters (e.g., password security of different operating systems, password security policies and how to enforce them). The following are some topics that are _not_ closely related to John the Ripper and thus are considered off-topic here: - Questions on how to crack passwords of remote systems (e-mail accounts, websites, etc.), without prior access to password files of those systems. Follow-up postings to such off-topic questions. As an exception, case studies and _advanced_ descriptions of remote attacks with subsequent uses of John the Ripper may be posted. - Private discussions, or any messages which are unlikely to benefit more than a single intended recipient (e.g., "I'll answer your question soon"). These should be sent to the particular recipient, not to the mailing list. What I intend to be doing on obviously off-topic postings is usually an immediate unsubscribe plus addition to the mailing list manager's "deny" list. This may seem a little harsh, but it actually helps both the person being removed (who has obviously joined the list by mistake) and the remaining subscribers. If the number of off-topic postings keeps growing, I will make this list pre-moderated even for current subscribers, slowly adding those who make on-topic postings to an "allow" list. P.S. We're staying at around 450 current subscribers for a while now - some people are joining, some are leaving, and some e-mail addresses become invalid over time (so ezmlm-idx drops them). Thanks, -- Alexander Peslyak <solar at openwall.com> GPG key ID: B35D3598 fp: 6429 0D7E F130 C13E C929 6447 73C3 A290 B35D 3598 http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments -- To unsubscribe, e-mail john-users-unsubscribe@...ts.openwall.com and reply to the automated confirmation request that will be sent to you.
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