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Message-ID: <20060605182028.GA1848@openwall.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:20:28 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: NON-MPI parallelizing patch against 1.7.2. On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 05:00:54PM +0200, Otheus (aka Timothy J. Shelling) wrote: > This patch > > (a) fixes problems when multiple john processes on different machines are > trying to access the same file (ie, john.pot). It replaces the flock() calls > with lockf() calls. You even see a message on stdout when two processes > collide on the same file. As I've explained in a private e-mail, I've been meaning to change John to use fcntl() locks instead of flock() - and to use those locks on more platforms (currently, OS_FLOCK is never enabled with "make generic"). fcntl() has a higher chance of being supported and reliable over NFS. The john.pot corruption that you've provided examples of did not look like it is locking-related, although it could have been. > Solar, I hope you will consider incorporating these into your baseline code. > Since there's no MPI code, and it performs reasonably well, and has minimal > code changes, I think it will be to your liking. I don't intend to incorporate these specific changes, however I accept them as a good illustration of what functionality you would like to see in John. Speaking of your checksumming function - it is a good idea, however the particular function results in a highly non-uniform distribution with a high number of nodes. For example, with MPIbykeysum from your original patch and the number of nodes set to 100, the first 10 nodes (numbers 0 to 9) get less than 5,000 of candidate passwords per node out of the first 1 million of candidate passwords generated with "-i" with the supplied all.chr, whereas nodes 60 to 69 get 12,000 to 13,000 of candidate passwords per node out of the same 1 million. If you implement a checksumming function internal to John, you may want to use the CRC-32 implementation instead. MPIbyKeySumThenCount would have been a good idea except that I don't think it works correctly with recovered sessions. If you would like me to possibly place any of your patches in contrib/, please generate them according to the instructions I've provided a few days ago. I'd expect a newer revision of the MPI patch from you, including the relevant additions to john.conf. Thanks, -- Alexander Peslyak <solar at openwall.com> GPG key ID: B35D3598 fp: 6429 0D7E F130 C13E C929 6447 73C3 A290 B35D 3598 http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
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