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Message-ID: <afa94a5cc15a06fb45dbd283bf67760f@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:18:13 +0200 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: plaintext truncation On 2015-08-13 21:10, Frank Dittrich wrote: > On 08/13/2015 09:05 PM, Solar Designer wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 09:02:12PM +0200, Frank Dittrich wrote: >>> On 08/13/2015 08:57 PM, Solar Designer wrote: >>>> OK, I think it should be FMT_TRUNC and it should mean the target >>>> system's truncation, which JtR will replicate (like it does now). >>> >>> But some target systems will truncate or limit the length in >>> characters, not bytes. >> >> Yes, but we already have this problem. Do you want us to try to come up >> with a solution for both problems at once? > > Not sure how much harder it will be to address both problems at once. > At least, we should be aware of that problem as well. The plans we have for interally representing plaintexts as UTF-32 throughout all of core will fix this and *many* other issues. All such figures will always mean characters, not necessarily bytes. BTW right now I don't really expect that new code to ever (!) merge into Jumbo as we know it. It will stay as another fork, whatever name we'll give it. As a heads-up, I expect to continue my work mainly in that fork. However, all this is just ideas so far, we'll see what actually happens. Also, the plans right now has a nice side effect: All format plugins will be 100% compatible between those two forks/versions of Jumbo. magnum
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