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Message-ID: <20150712143027.GA2628@openwall.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:30:27 +0300
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: extend SIMD intrinsics
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 05:47:37PM +0800, Lei Zhang wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:15:41PM -0400, Alain Espinosa wrote:
> >> In Visual C the difference of a simple assignment and a vload is that for the assignment the compiler generate an unaligned SIMD load instruction, and for vload it generates an aligned SIMD load with the usual restriction: if this memory access isn't aligned the required byte amount an exception is raised. In general the performance difference is negligible, if any.
> >
> > When I corrected my code (bitslice DES code in JtR) to
> > make the alignment apparent to gcc, it stopped generating the unaligned
> > load instructions, generating the aligned ones instead.
>
> Could you exemplify how you did it with some code?
It's commit fd875ac13ba0b57b5c84157a440dd03fac714eb1:
Added CC_CACHE_ALIGN to the declaration of DES_bs_all in the non-OpenMP case,
per advice from Richard Biener in
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51017#c11 and @sevenps tweeting
"Different alignments in definition and declaration is undefined behavior (C11,
alignas)"
So it was a bug fix, and it only applied to non-OpenMP builds (where the
struct was at a fixed address, and gcc's attribute was used to provide
and then to declare alignment).
I now think Alain's message suggests we may in fact need to use the
load/store intrinsics. His code is probably multi-threaded, so he must
have been accessing the vectors via pointers. gcc in this case uses
aligned loads; per Alain, apparently Visual C uses unaligned loads.
I don't know if we care about Visual C in particular, but it's a bad
sign. And JimF has in fact been building jumbo with Visual C.
Alexander
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