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Message-ID: <20120818163725.GA28985@openwall.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:37:25 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Cc: Vladimir Vorontsov <vladimir.vorontsov@...ec.ru> Subject: salted raw MD5 on GPU (was: [john-users] Salted MD5) myrice, Jim, Vladimir - On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:26:12AM +0800, myrice wrote: > Do we implement 2bytes salt and 8bytes as separate format? Implement variable salt length, like what dynamic_4 supports (I think). Not just 2 and 8, but a range of lengths. Jim - do you think dynamic_4 would work for Vladimir's needs (except that he wants this on GPU, indeed)? Does OSC use ASCII or binary salts? Does this require hex-encoding the salt? > What will the format ciphertext like? If we have two salt length in > one, I think we could: > > "$SaltMD5o$123456$c02e8eef3eaa1a813c2ff87c1780f9ed","test1" > and > "$SaltMD5b$123456$c02e8eef3eaa1a813c2ff87c1780f9ed","test1" The above looks weird to me: both examples actually specify the same salt (meaning same length too). Can you just support the dynamic_4 syntax, but implement it on GPU? As an alternative, support a syntax similar to that used by md4_gen_fmt_plug.c, but for MD5 and on GPU. It uses: static struct fmt_tests tests[] = { {"$MD4p$salt$15ad2b7a23e5088942f9d3772181b384", "password"}, {"$MD4s$salt$fb483dbef17c51c13e2322fcbec5da79", "password"}, {NULL} }; where "p" is for prefix (what Vladimir needs), "s" is for suffix (not needed now). What you'd implement would be: $MD5p$salt$hash Of course, it'd only work for ASCII salts. I don't know if Vladimir needs binary (hex-encoded) salts as well or not. Thanks, Alexander
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