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Message-ID: <bc48997ee35737090c5a721c534495e5@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:17:34 +0200 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Shouldn't the TS work with a pw.dic in reversed order as well? On 2012-06-29 00:10, Frank Dittrich wrote: > I just wanted to find out which hmac-sha1 passwords get cracked if I try > the candidate passwords in reversed order. > > > mv pw.dic pw.dic.orig > tac pw.dic.orig > pw.dic > > > But I already stumbled over > > form=dynamic_2 guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > Exiting on error. The pot file ./tst.pot contains the found data > The command used to run this test was: > > ../run/john -ses=./tst -nolog -pot=./tst.pot dynamic_2_tst.in > --wordlist=pw.dic 2>&1 >/dev/null > > > Other formats that fail: Interesting find. I used to do "shuf pw.dic.orig > pw.dic" for similar adventures. > form=dynamic_2-raw guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > .pot CHK:dynamic_2-raw guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 [PASSED] > > form=dynamic_3 guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > .pot CHK:dynamic_3 guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 [PASSED] > > form=dynamic_3-raw guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > .pot CHK:dynamic_3-raw guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 [PASSED] > > form=dynamic_34 guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > .pot CHK:dynamic_34 guesses: 1482 time: 0:00:00:00 [PASSED] It's very consistent :) > form=hmac-sha1 guesses: 730 time: 0:00:00:09 : > Expected count(s) (1500) [!!!FAILED!!!] > .pot CHK:hmac-sha1 guesses: 730 time: 0:00:00:01 [PASSED] > > So,. for hmac-sha1 at least the password count is the same if we reverse > the order of candidates tried. You did not pull the fix Jim authored? This problem should be long gone. magnum
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