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Message-ID: <20111106221205.GA21427@openwall.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 02:12:05 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: larger SALT_HASH_SIZE Jim, magnum, all - JFYI, I am increasing SALT_HASH_SIZE from 0x400 to 0x1000. I thought of increasing it much further, but there are some reasons to pick 0x1000 specifically (see below), whereas making this size dynamic is a bit tricky. So, those reasons are: 1. With the new bitslice DES code (post-1.7.8, currently in CVS), salt setup is faster when the new salt differs from the old one in as few bits as possible. Our list of salts is not deliberately sorted, but our use of a hash table at load time results in them being grouped by salt_hash() value. By picking the salt hash table size of 0x1000 (4096) and having salt_hash() directly return the salt value (for 12-bit salts), we effectively sort the salts list, which should result in a slight speedup while cracking. 2. Anything larger than 0x1000 would waste memory in the fairly common 12-bit salts case. 3. 0x1000 is still likely to fit in modern CPUs' L1 data caches (that's 16 KB or 32 KB depending on pointer size). When I picked 0x400 many years ago, L1 data caches of 8 KB were very common, so I tried not to exceed that. So this is what I am going to do for the next release, and we might introduce support for larger sizes later. Except for #1 above, which this size bump fully deals with, salt hash table size only affects load times - not cracking speed. In -jumbo, we can slowly proceed to revise salt_hash() functions to actually make use of the larger salt hash table. Whenever possible, we should use the SALT_HASH_SIZE and SALT_HASH_LOG macros there instead of hardcoding a specific size. Alexander
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