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Message-ID: <20110607201016.GA19995@openwall.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 00:10:16 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Lukas's Status Report - #4 of 15 Lukas, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:46:18PM +0200, ?ukasz Odzioba wrote: > I've implemented md5-based crypt but still having trouble with forcing > it to work properly. Maybe you can show your code, even if non-working? There might be design changes that I'd propose (regardless of implementation bugs). > In the meantime I found cpu implementation called "fast md5-crypt" and Can you please post an URL for it (or otherwise share it with us)? A Google web search for "fast md5-crypt" doesn't appear to find it. > want to analyze it and compare to the current one. You mean to the one in JtR? BTW, bartavelle's code in 1.7.7-jumbo-5 introduces a SIMD implementation. Perhaps you want to look at non-SIMD code in official 1.7.7. Also, since the overall structure of SHA-crypt was based on MD5-crypt's, you may be able to reuse some approaches for SHA-crypt. > I tried to check coalesced read/write in sha256 crypt (because it was > easiest to do) and got following results: > Uncoalesced > Raw: 10569K c/s real, 10569K c/s virtual > > Coalesced read > Raw: 12115K c/s real, 12115K c/s virtual > +4.6% > > Coalesced read and write > Raw: 12376K c/s real, 12376K c/s virtual > +2.2% > Overall: +7% OK. Obviously, the bottleneck for fast hashes like this is different. > It is not a big deal, but it's worth to do in other patches. Sounds right. > Surprisingly I didn't stated any difference in coalescing operations > inside kernel. What do you mean? Perhaps you wanted to say "notice", not "stated", but even if so I find this unclear. > I have also added gtx460 benchmarks results to the wiki. Presenting > them as a list its not user friendly, so meaby we could turn on html > or php support on wiki to add charts as a nice google chart script, > example here: > > http://kaims.pl/~ukasz/gsoc/chart.html The chart looks pretty, but I have no problem with textual data on the wiki so far. I think we should focus on actually improving the code. So far, for everything but phpass (and the artificial looped SHA-256 that I suggested as an experiment) the performance is very poor. But I trust you'll be able to improve it. Thanks, Alexander
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