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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:28:07 +0100
From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>
To: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@...folio.org>
Cc: "Rich Felker" <dalias@...c.org>,  "Gabriel Ravier"
 <gabravier@...il.com>,  "Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)" <sjf5462@....edu>,
  musl@...ts.openwall.com,  "Andreas Schwab" <schwab@...e.de>,  "Alejandro
 Colomar" <alx@...nel.org>,  "Thorsten Glaser" <tg@...bsd.de>,  NRK
 <nrk@...root.org>,  "Guillem Jover" <guillem@...rons.org>,  "GNU libc
 development" <libc-alpha@...rceware.org>,  libbsd@...ts.freedesktop.org,
  "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,  "Iker Pedrosa"
 <ipedrosa@...hat.com>,  "Christian Brauner" <christian@...uner.io>
Subject: Re: Re: Tweaking the program name for <err.h> functions

* Zack Weinberg:

> I do fully agree that this is a design error in NFS and in close(2)
> more generally [like all destructors, it should be _impossible_ for
> close to fail], but there is no realistic prospect of changing it, and
> I've been burned a few times by programs that didn't notice delayed
> write errors.

There is fsync to avoid delayed write errors.  Historically, it's been
very bad for performance.  What coreutils et al. aim to do is to deal
with non-catastrophic failures (mainly out of space errors) without
incurring the fsync overhead.

Thanks,
Florian

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