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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:42:13 +1000
From: Michael Samuel <mik@...net.net>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Resume for KDEPaste external mode

Hi,

Sorry about that - to restore you need to keep track of the seed.  You
shouldn't need restore for this if you narrow down the time range (eg.
using a password expiry field) - it's almost instant.

Regards,
  Michael


On 13 June 2013 08:41, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:57:41PM +0200, magnum wrote:
> > On 12 Jun, 2013, at 23:45 , magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> wrote:
> > > KDEPaste lacks a restore() function. If you resume it, it will just
> restart from scratch. My first question is: Should this not be detected and
> resulting in refusal to resume? Or could some modes work fine without a
> resume() function? I guess some could... but at least we should warn or
> something?
> >
> > On second thought I really think it should bail out with error. Modes
> that don't really need any special code should implement a dummy restore().
> I will try implementing this in Jumbo and see where it goes but it should
> be in core too IMHO.
>
> There are definitely external modes that are --restore'able even though
> they lack a restore().  Warning when there's no restore() and adding a
> dummy restore() to those formats to suppress the new warnings is an
> interesting idea.
>
> I was also thinking of some way to make interrupt/restore of external
> modes easier - such as by introducing a way to declare external mode
> variables that would be automatically saved and restored (maybe have
> "static" mean this, or introduce a keyword of our own - e.g., "restore").
> In terms of implementation, we could either traverse the variables list
> and save/restore the needed ones - or we could have these placed in a
> separate memory region, which would be saved/restored in its entirety.
>
> In fact, we could easily be saving/restoring all of the variables, but
> this would make the .rec files for some external modes much larger than
> necessary, which with the current in-place rewrites could reduce
> reliability over system crashes, and it'd have some performance impact.
>
> Alexander
>

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